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June 12, 2009


Omer Ansari

Chuck, great post. Your commentary around processes and tools is spot on, and you offer a refreshing approach to kicking off a private cloud.

Curious about your point on licensing though. Isn't hardware based SW licensing good for virtualization? For instance, I buy one SW license based on 2 socket server, and re-use that for each of the 15 VMs running the SW on that one server.

I read your comment as SW licensing should get tied more to per VM instance, as opposed to hardware.

Chuck Hollis

Hi Omer

Funny you should mention that -- other people seem to go to a similar conclusion. My take is that licensing per VM won't solve the problem -- it's just another variation of per-CPU.

On a practical note, VMs can be very large or very small. They might be inactive, waiting on disk to be invoked. Multithreaded apps might want more, smaller VMs rather than fewer, large.

The real question in software licensing is "what corresponds to value?". For example, I live on Outlook all day, should be prepared to pay more than an occasional user?

No good answers here, only questions ... :-)

John F.


"Multithreaded apps might want more, smaller VMs rather than fewer, small"

small or large?

Chuck Hollis

whoops -- my bad -- should be "fewer, large"


What are your thoughts on barriers to adoption of cloud services like Microsoft BPOS?

Chuck Hollis


Good question -- kind of mixed feelings. I meet a lot of smaller organizations that could be perfectly happy with something like BPOS, or Google's services, or something similar. They don't need much out of their collaboration or small app environment, so why splurge for something more?

That being said, I think that Microsoft's BPOS offering is going through some inevitable growing pains. Not to mention, I've met more than one Microsoft partner who isn't particularly thrilled by the idea.

For larger organizations, or organizations with more specialized requirements, it ends up being a poor fit in many cases. For example, consider www.ceryx.com as the next notch up the ladder.

Barriers to adoption? Converting your processes, and migrating your users. Nothing too extraordinary, and there are many good professional services and consulting firms who have demonstrated the ability to do this.

-- Chuck

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Chuck Hollis

  • Chuck Hollis
    SVP, Oracle Converged Infrastructure Systems

    Chuck now works for Oracle, and is now deeply embroiled in IT infrastructure.

    Previously, he was with VMware for 2 years, and EMC for 18 years before that, most of them great.

    He enjoys speaking to customer and industry audiences about a variety of technology topics, and -- of course -- enjoys blogging.

    Chuck lives in Vero Beach, FL with his wife and four dogs when he's not traveling. In his spare time, Chuck is working on his second career as an aging rock musician.

    Warning: do not ever buy him a drink when there is a piano nearby.

    Note: these are my personal views, and aren't reviewed or approved by my employer.
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